Oct 16, 2025 · 1 hr 22 min
Episode description
Poetry: a way around forbidden arts. This episode's guest was again Shams Langeroudi — poet and leading Hafez scholar — but this time the talk was all about what lies behind Persian poetry and the rindi (roguish wit) of Hafez. Why has Iran produced so many poets? Why did some believe Hafez was a mystic, while others think he was a silver-tongued, witty rogue who enjoyed playing with words and confusing the rulers and clerics of his day? You could say the history of Persian poetry divides into three parts when it comes to wine: first, when wine was simply wine (we've all read Khayyam). Then wine became a way to connect with the spiritual, and mystical wine was born, as in Rumi's poems. And third, Hafez stepped onto the field of Persian poetry and called every earlier meaning into question. With his wordplay, Hafez created something that has puzzled analysts of Persian poetry for centuries. But how did this historical journey happen? How did Hafez reach such a level of rindi? And what does rind even mean? In this episode, Shams Langeroudi answers every doubt about Hafez and his poetry in his own delightful way. If you'd like to know why some people tried to have Hafez killed, don't miss it. Our long-time sponsor: Vitabiotics. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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